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Honda Accord: K24A3 ATF Degradation Causes 3rd Gear Lockup

K24A3 ATF Degradation Causes 3rd Gear Lockup is a very common transmission fault on the Honda Accord on the 2002–2008 cars, and we rate it major. Putting it right costs $200 to $4,200 at New Zealand independent workshop rates. Below is what goes wrong, the symptoms to notice on a test drive, where to look, and what to ask the seller before you hand over any money. It is one of 55 documented faults on the Honda Accord.

Vehicle
Honda Accord
Engine
K24A3
Years
2002–2008
Fuel
petrol
Gearbox
auto
System
Transmission

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All Honda Accord faults55 documented faults on this model

What you are looking at

No photograph available

We do not hold a verified photograph of the Torque converter or Clutch yet. We would rather show none than show a picture of a different part.

What goes wrong

The CM-generation Accord 5-speed automatic (BDGA/BGFA unit) relies on Honda Genuine ATF-Z1 to maintain the correct friction coefficient in the torque converter lockup clutch. As ATF degrades beyond 40,000–60,000 km intervals, the clutch material transfers onto clutch plates, raising the dynamic friction coefficient and causing the converter to shudder, grab, or slip cyclically when engaging lockup in 3rd gear (typically 60–90 km/h cruise). Many NZ/AU examples arrived with a single ATF drain-and-fill or none at all, meaning degraded fluid has been present for most of the vehicle's life. A full flush or three successive drain-and-fill cycles with fresh ATF-Z1 or DW-1 resolves the shudder in roughly 70% of cases; vehicles with worn clutch discs require a rebuild or remanufactured unit.

What you would notice

  • Rhythmic shudder or judder at 60–90 km/h steady cruise
  • Vibration felt through the floor and seat when holding highway speed
  • Shudder disappears when accelerating or decelerating out of the lockup zone
  • Check engine or D4 indicator light in severe cases
  • Transmission hesitation or flare when upshifting 2nd to 3rd under light throttle

How to check it

Where to look. Automatic transmission, torque converter lockup clutch — accessible via transmission pan drain plug on underside of vehicle

  1. Pull ATF dipstick and check colour (healthy = cherry red; degraded = brown/black) and smell for a burnt odour.

  2. Test drive at 70–80 km/h on light throttle and hold steady; shudder confirms lockup slip.

  3. Ask for ATF service history.

  4. If fluid is dark, budget for three successive drain-and-fills before condemning the transmission.

Parts involved: Torque converter, Clutch.

What it costs to put right

$200 to $4,200 at New Zealand independent workshop rates. That is for this job on its own, not for the car.

An estimate, in NZD, for the repair as normally carried out. What a specific car costs depends on which part has failed and what it damaged on the way — treat this as the floor for a negotiation, not a quote.

Ask the seller

  • “Has the ATF ever been changed, and with what fluid?”
  • “Does the car shudder or vibrate at highway cruise speeds?”
  • “Has a transmission shudder been diagnosed or treated before?”

Now check the Honda Accord you are actually looking at

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Where this comes from

The failure described above is documented in published sources — owner forums, technical service bulletins, recall notices and workshop write-ups — held in our fault database. The inspection instructions and the cost estimate are KickTyres’ own interpretation of them, and it is a starting point for an inspection rather than a manufacturer statement.

Honda Accord buyer questions

Is k24a3 atf degradation causes 3rd gear lockup serious on a Honda Accord?

We rate it major and very common on the Honda Accord. The CM-generation Accord 5-speed automatic (BDGA/BGFA unit) relies on Honda Genuine ATF-Z1 to maintain the correct friction coefficient in the torque converter lockup clutch. As ATF degrades beyond 40,000–60,000 km intervals, the clutch material transfers onto clutch plates, raising the dynamic friction coefficient and causing the converter to shudder, grab, or slip cyclically when engaging lockup in 3rd gear (typically 60–90 km/h cruise). Many NZ/AU examples arrived with a single ATF drain-and-fill or none at all, meaning degraded fluid has been present for most of the vehicle's life. A full flush or three successive drain-and-fill cycles with fresh ATF-Z1 or DW-1 resolves the shudder in roughly 70% of cases; vehicles with worn clutch discs require a rebuild or remanufactured unit.

How much does it cost to fix on a Honda Accord?

$200 to $4,200 at New Zealand independent workshop rates. That figure is for this job on its own. A car showing the symptoms on this page is usually worth either walking away from or negotiating down by at least the repair figure.

Which Honda Accord years are affected?

Our research records this fault on the 2002–2008 Honda Accord. Build dates move around, especially on imported cars, so treat the range as the years to look hardest at rather than a guarantee either way. The official records tell you the exact build and first registration date for the car in front of you.

How do I check for it before I buy?

Pull ATF dipstick and check colour (healthy = cherry red; degraded = brown/black) and smell for a burnt odour. Test drive at 70–80 km/h on light throttle and hold steady; shudder confirms lockup slip. Ask for ATF service history. If fluid is dark, budget for three successive drain-and-fills before condemning the transmission. Look here: Automatic transmission, torque converter lockup clutch — accessible via transmission pan drain plug on underside of vehicle