Nissan Presage: VQ35DE Secondary Timing Chain Tensioner Bleed-Down Rattle
VQ35DE Secondary Timing Chain Tensioner Bleed-Down Rattle is a common engine fault on the Nissan Presage on the 2003–2009 cars, and we rate it major. Putting it right costs $1,400 to $3,500 at New Zealand independent workshop rates. Below is what goes wrong, the symptoms to notice on a test drive, where to look, and what to ask the seller before you hand over any money. It is one of 14 documented faults on the Nissan Presage.
- Vehicle
- Nissan Presage
- Engine
- VQ35-DE
- Years
- 2003–2009
- Fuel
- petrol
- Gearbox
- auto
- System
- Engine
What you are looking at
Example of the part — not this vehicleThe front of a twin-cam engine with the timing cover off — chain, sprockets and guides.
What goes wrong
The VQ35DE 3.5-litre V6 fitted to U31 Presage models uses two secondary timing chains — one per cylinder bank — driven off the primary chain. The hydraulic tensioners for these secondary chains rely on engine oil pressure to maintain adequate chain tension, and when oil drains back past the tensioner check valves overnight, the chains run slack during the first seconds of cold start. Repeated tensioner bleed-down accelerates wear on the secondary chain guide rails, and in advanced cases the chains can jump a tooth, causing catastrophic valve-to-piston contact.
What you would notice
- Pronounced metallic rattling from the front of the engine for 5–30 seconds on cold start, ceasing once oil pressure is established
- In advanced wear cases, rattle persists at idle or reappears at low rpm under light load
- Intermittent check engine light with camshaft position timing over-retarded codes on one or both banks
How to check it
Where to look. Front of engine on both cylinder banks, behind the front timing cover; tensioners accessible after cover removal
Cold-start the engine after it has sat overnight and immediately listen for a chain rattle from the front of the engine that typically lasts 5 to 30 seconds before disappearing as oil pressure builds.
Check engine oil level and quality — degraded oil worsens tensioner bleed-down.
Scan for any fault codes relating to cam timing.
Confirm applicability of Nissan Technical Service Bulletin NTB06-016 covering VQ35DE secondary chain tensioner replacement.
What it costs to put right
$1,400 to $3,500 at New Zealand independent workshop rates. That is for this job on its own, not for the car.
Ask the seller
- “Does the engine rattle for a few seconds on cold start before settling down?”
- “Has the timing chain or tensioner been replaced under Nissan's service bulletin NTB06-016?”
- “What oil viscosity and brand is currently used, and how often is it changed?”
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Where this comes from
Nissan Presage buyer questions
Is vq35de secondary timing chain tensioner bleed-down rattle serious on a Nissan Presage?
We rate it major and common on the Nissan Presage. The VQ35DE 3.5-litre V6 fitted to U31 Presage models uses two secondary timing chains — one per cylinder bank — driven off the primary chain. The hydraulic tensioners for these secondary chains rely on engine oil pressure to maintain adequate chain tension, and when oil drains back past the tensioner check valves overnight, the chains run slack during the first seconds of cold start. Repeated tensioner bleed-down accelerates wear on the secondary chain guide rails, and in advanced cases the chains can jump a tooth, causing catastrophic valve-to-piston contact.
How much does it cost to fix on a Nissan Presage?
$1,400 to $3,500 at New Zealand independent workshop rates. That figure is for this job on its own. A car showing the symptoms on this page is usually worth either walking away from or negotiating down by at least the repair figure.
Which Nissan Presage years are affected?
Our research records this fault on the 2003–2009 Nissan Presage. Build dates move around, especially on imported cars, so treat the range as the years to look hardest at rather than a guarantee either way. The official records tell you the exact build and first registration date for the car in front of you.
How do I check for it before I buy?
Cold-start the engine after it has sat overnight and immediately listen for a chain rattle from the front of the engine that typically lasts 5 to 30 seconds before disappearing as oil pressure builds. Check engine oil level and quality — degraded oil worsens tensioner bleed-down. Scan for any fault codes relating to cam timing. Confirm applicability of Nissan Technical Service Bulletin NTB06-016 covering VQ35DE secondary chain tensioner replacement. Look here: Front of engine on both cylinder banks, behind the front timing cover; tensioners accessible after cover removal