Holden Commodore: 6L80/6L90 TCC Shudder 4th–5th Gear
6L80/6L90 TCC Shudder 4th–5th Gear is a common transmission fault on the Holden Commodore on the 2006–2017 cars, and we rate it major. Putting it right costs $350 to $4,200 at New Zealand independent workshop rates. Below is what goes wrong, the symptoms to notice on a test drive, where to look, and what to ask the seller before you hand over any money. It is one of 51 documented faults on the Holden Commodore.
- Vehicle
- Holden Commodore
- Years
- 2006–2017
- Fuel
- petrol
- Gearbox
- auto
- System
- Transmission
What you are looking at
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What goes wrong
The Hydra-Matic 6L80 and 6L90 six-speed automatic transmissions use a torque converter clutch (TCC) that locks up in 4th and 5th gears to eliminate slip and improve fuel economy. The TCC uses a multi-plate friction pack that operates in the transmission fluid. When the Dexron VI fluid degrades or becomes contaminated with clutch material, the clutch plates lose their ability to engage smoothly, producing a low-frequency shudder felt through the drivetrain at light throttle cruise between 60–110 km/h. The TCC solenoid can also stick or wear, causing erratic lockup engagement. GM revised the fluid specification and issued a Technical Service Bulletin recommending a Dexron HP fluid update and TCC adaptive reset procedure. In severe cases the torque converter must be rebuilt or replaced. Vehicles with towing history or those that have never had a fluid service are most at risk.
What you would notice
- Low-frequency vibration or shudder felt through the floor and seat at 60–110 km/h at light throttle
- Shudder disappears under heavier acceleration or when TCC unlocks at deceleration
- Transmission hunting or cycling between locked and unlocked TCC at cruise
- Fault codes P0740, P0741, P0742, P0743 for TCC circuit or slip
- Fluid smells burnt or is dark brown at routine service
How to check it
Where to look. Inside the torque converter, bolted to the front of the 6L80/6L90 transmission; the TCC clutch pack is internal to the converter and requires removal of the transmission to access
Drive at 80–100 km/h on a flat road with light, steady throttle and feel for a low-frequency shudder through the seat and floor.
If shudder clears when you press the accelerator 10% further, it is TCC-related.
Check transmission fluid colour and level — dark or burnt fluid indicates contaminated Dexron VI.
Scan for TCC-related fault codes.
Ask for transmission service history; if the fluid has never been changed and the vehicle has 80,000+ km, budget for a service and adaptive relearn as a minimum.
What it costs to put right
$350 to $4,200 at New Zealand independent workshop rates. That is for this job on its own, not for the car.
Ask the seller
- “Has the transmission fluid ever been serviced or flushed?”
- “Has any shudder or vibration at highway cruise been noticed?”
- “Has the transmission ever thrown fault codes or been scanned?”
- “Has the vehicle been used for towing, and if so, how frequently and what loads?”
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Holden Commodore buyer questions
Is 6l80/6l90 tcc shudder 4th–5th gear serious on a Holden Commodore?
We rate it major and common on the Holden Commodore. The Hydra-Matic 6L80 and 6L90 six-speed automatic transmissions use a torque converter clutch (TCC) that locks up in 4th and 5th gears to eliminate slip and improve fuel economy. The TCC uses a multi-plate friction pack that operates in the transmission fluid. When the Dexron VI fluid degrades or becomes contaminated with clutch material, the clutch plates lose their ability to engage smoothly, producing a low-frequency shudder felt through the drivetrain at light throttle cruise between 60–110 km/h. The TCC solenoid can also stick or wear, causing erratic lockup engagement. GM revised the fluid specification and issued a Technical Service Bulletin recommending a Dexron HP fluid update and TCC adaptive reset procedure. In severe cases the torque converter must be rebuilt or replaced. Vehicles with towing history or those that have never had a fluid service are most at risk.
How much does it cost to fix on a Holden Commodore?
$350 to $4,200 at New Zealand independent workshop rates. That figure is for this job on its own. A car showing the symptoms on this page is usually worth either walking away from or negotiating down by at least the repair figure.
Which Holden Commodore years are affected?
Our research records this fault on the 2006–2017 Holden Commodore. Build dates move around, especially on imported cars, so treat the range as the years to look hardest at rather than a guarantee either way. The official records tell you the exact build and first registration date for the car in front of you.
How do I check for it before I buy?
Drive at 80–100 km/h on a flat road with light, steady throttle and feel for a low-frequency shudder through the seat and floor. If shudder clears when you press the accelerator 10% further, it is TCC-related. Check transmission fluid colour and level — dark or burnt fluid indicates contaminated Dexron VI. Scan for TCC-related fault codes. Ask for transmission service history; if the fluid has never been changed and the vehicle has 80,000+ km, budget for a service and adaptive relearn as a minimum. Look here: Inside the torque converter, bolted to the front of the 6L80/6L90 transmission; the TCC clutch pack is internal to the converter and requires removal of the transmission to access